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Slaadskin.
Topic Started: Sep 2 2014, 03:11 AM (172 Views)
Madnobody629
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Hello,all.
I have a set of Slaakskin gloves and a Slaadskin cloak, only usual by chaotic. My pc is neutral, with a UMD mod of 14, which should allow one to equip them. Upon attempting to equip said items they deequip and it tells me I don't meet the prerequisites to equip them. I guess my question is,whats up? Something I'm missing?
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Just to add to this so it does not seem an isolated incident: I have a character with UMD 19 and a magic item that should definitely be able to be worn at that level of UMD*, even so I get the same error message as the OP, and the item refuses to equip.







*Requirement Lawful Good Alignment, I can use other LG required items, and this item is NOT part of a set.
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We have a script which blocks UMD from working. Its only applied to a few items at the moment though. Its meant to be applied only to certain special items, and the item description should clearly state that UMD will not overcome it.

Check the item description. If it doesn't clearly spell it out that the item cannot be worn with UMD, let me know, ill get the template description changed to highlight that.
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I have no problem with some items being exempt, but I am curious to know why some items are.

It would be tedious I am sure, bit for those items that cannot be UMD'ed, can the items description include not just that the skill is unusable, but also the IC/Story/Flavor reason for why it cannot?
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Ideally yes. An OOC warning should definitely be included at least.

Ah, yes, just checked that. All set items have the extra scripting in place. If there are any requirements on any set items then they will be enforced.

Ill raise an issue for this, someone needs to edit descriptions on those... probably me... muggins, that's who! :P
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The issue is that the popularity of high UMD was leading to the inability to make special items limited to certain underrepresented character types, because every FS/Paladin or Kame build could just handwave the ability to use it. The set items, for those who collect full sets, introduced some new features not otherwise available and we chose to apply the anti-UMD script to them. Otherwise, I think you'll find some "tomato" items (named for the text color, like "purples") also run this script, although I also believe none of these are available as standard drops (at least they weren't when I was here before, and I haven't seen any drop since I returned).

But again, like Agony said that information should be in the item description.
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I get the why,but on examining the items there really is no hint that you can't UMD them. I was really happy to get the cloak (Bought it off another pc) because the regen property was something really useful, and no go.
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Agony_Aunt,Sep 2 2014
06:25 AM
If there are any requirements on any set items then they will be enforced.

Wait... so UMD should not work on ANY set item? Because it does work on some of them.
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Would be good to know which items it doesn't work on. Keep in mind not all item sets have restrictions. About half of them do.

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I get the why,but on examining the items there really is no hint that you can't UMD them.


Already edited descriptions. Will be in the next update. Existing ones though won't get the new descriptions.
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Agony_Aunt,Sep 2 2014
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Keep in mind not all item sets have restrictions.

OK, that was a part of the math I was missing. Thank you.
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Filip Kustaa: Purveyor of Westminster Brewery's fine beverages
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I don't think I'm giving any spoilers away by posting this here, but these are the known item sets and their restrictions (if any):

Arboreal Archer—Race: Elf or Half-Elf

Brazen—None

Celestial Glory—Alignment: Lawful Good

Fallen Shadows—None

Iggwilv—None

Slaadskin—Alignment Group: Chaotic

Sword Saint—None

Warlord—Class: Fighter
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