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Topic Started: Nov 5 2014, 05:58 AM (1,042 Views)
Icelancer
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OK HOLD ON...
wow just got low disc usage on C...
no wonder it wont download file.. too much hanky panky stuff in downloads..
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Ah, yeah, that can cause it. Have a clean out.

Get rid of all those scod2_*.hak files. You don't need them any more.
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During character creation the model tears, flips upside down, is at an angle, or freezes during Head/Hair selection, or Class selection.


At one point, all of the 'Added features' of an armor, such as shoulder pads, leg guards, elbows and so on were below the feet of the model when going through the classes.



He is an example of what I'm talking about:

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Nope, i'm not getting that at all.

What race?

I checked a few, Human, Tiefling, Genasi. All behaved normal, no graphical glitches.

I have seen that problem on occasion with certain graphics card/driver combinations though. Have you changed your drivers recently?
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Was doing it for Drow and Half-fiend for me.

I haven't updated my drivers recently nor have I had any issues with them (I can run Crisis in Ultra). This just began happening after the update.
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It only happens if you are going backwards in head selection , if you are going forward to full loop all are ok.
zoom in to head shows feet on them as well instead of face
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After updating, you can now safely remove all HAKs from your HAK folder that start with scod2_ - note the 2!!! Do not remove anything starting with scod3_


Nope. Deleted them and relogged, and it started downloading scod_clothmod.hak, with 1091 or so mb to go.

Possibly related, Father Chains now has ponytail dreadlocks and Ember is invisible. Neither is particularly desirable.
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Ninefingers,Nov 5 2014
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Nope. Deleted them and relogged, and it started downloading scod_clothmod.hak, with 1091 or so mb to go.


I've just checked. The module doesn't require those HAKs... so i guess some strangeness going on with the ADL. Ill look into it. I guess some legacy settings that haven't been properly removed.

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Possibly related, Father Chains now has ponytail dreadlocks and Ember is invisible. Neither is particularly desirable.


Ok, that's definitely not good.

Anyone else experiencing similar problems with existing characters?

Looks like we may have overwritten some existing values.

It will be a rather major change with HAKs again to fix this, so let's see the extent of the problem. Then we can decide how we are going to fix it.

What i might be able to offer you is to edit your characters so they look right again.

Regarding Ember - suggestion. Remove your armour and all items, then relog. Do you reappear?
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No change. Even the 3d model in the inventory screen is gone.
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Confirmed. Game still wants the old scod2 haks, even though the module isn't using them.

Looks like some legacy values not being got rid of.

Ill see what i can do to fix that.
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Might just be a conflict causing the weirdness, then? That would be the least-worst new, I imagine.
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Ninefingers,Nov 5 2014
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No change. Even the 3d model in the inventory screen is gone.

Crazy... can you recreate their appearance with a test character? Let me know when its done, ill compare bic files. Call it something like testember or embertest so i know what to look for.

Perhaps same with Father Chains as well.
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That's a no for both of them. When I try to make a female tiefling, there are only about 4 head models before everything goes wonky, like in the screenies Nerull posted. When I tried the same for Chains, his hair model wasn't available. In fact, there were only about a dozen total, and I know there were more pre-update.
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Also getting the same stretch/warp/tear when looking at most of the bestial races.

Driders, Minotaurs, etc.
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Oh hells bells. This is bad.

Let me see what i can do.

At least i've solved the problem of requiring the old HAKs... although i'm wondering if for the moment we shouldn't try and make a quick switch back to the old set. But even that will take some time to do.
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