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| Topic Started: Aug 2 2016, 10:48 AM (4,534 Views) | |
| rapsam2003 | Aug 4 2016, 02:50 PM Post #46 |
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The Cambion Morthos: Athar Warlock Vaggol'cyth Krahl: Tiefling Cipher
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| EM Berk | Aug 4 2016, 02:54 PM Post #47 |
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Huh. Now there's a thought. Generally speaking I'd stick feint solely to sneak dice builds, simply because Obsidian designed it to do such, as an FS with buffs your AB should be enough to hit people without the need for removing their DEX AC. Not that you can't do it any other way of course, and that build does qualify for EDM, even if it's feat heavy. Plus you get some sneak dice in... Would be interesting to see how effective it was certainly. However! Dual whip master with feint, anyone? |
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| rapsam2003 | Aug 4 2016, 02:58 PM Post #48 |
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If you take points out of spot, you should have enough Hide/MS points to reliably use Sneak. |
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| Born2BeWild | Aug 4 2016, 03:01 PM Post #49 |
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you know with whip this build got 6d6 sneak(not sure if it will stack tho) so it's +21 average dmg on top of fs buffs(+6) and str+edm(+24) |
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| Gazoo | Aug 4 2016, 03:18 PM Post #50 |
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Just my thoughts: If you are committing to feint in the end-game, then the equipment compromise may leave you a bit poor on defence with the fs/feint build,since you've little dex or Epic dodge/etc. Anything in Carceri, for example, will generally require (as you know) ~70 + bluff for consistent success. It's likely that you'll need to go for plate and stuff that won't reach that bluff goal. (It might be fairly close, though, with Beguiling from warlock.) Also, you've got 11 EDM uses(16r)...So unless you are in the habit of resting frequently...you are saving those mostly for the tough mobs. In melee, if you are not careful, half of EDM duration is wasted moving around. So generally you'll be relying on weapon+SA to kill. AB is not an issue, though. The various crit-immunes can generally be overcome with ruin-weapons if you pay attention to detail. None-the-less, an interesting hybrid concept, B2B. |
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| falathara | Aug 4 2016, 07:08 PM Post #51 |
Golemcrafter Extrodinaire
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Hezrou with EDM, stormlord abilities, and base class... erm... fighter? |
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| rapsam2003 | Aug 4 2016, 08:30 PM Post #52 |
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Best case scenario, you end up negating the -6ACP from Full Plate, since Mithril Full Plate isn't an option. |
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| Born2BeWild | Aug 4 2016, 08:59 PM Post #53 |
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What is ACP?
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| rapsam2003 | Aug 4 2016, 09:40 PM Post #54 |
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http://nwn2.wikia.com/wiki/Armor_check_penalty |
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| Born2BeWild | Aug 4 2016, 11:09 PM Post #55 |
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but it's bluff, you don't get -bluff from armor |
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| rapsam2003 | Aug 4 2016, 11:46 PM Post #56 |
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Heh, wow. I feel silly. Been a long couple days. Apologies. |
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| Plaxy100 | Aug 4 2016, 11:48 PM Post #57 |
Does not infact have a Greybeard
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For my version of the Half Drow Favored soul This build I took into consideration his want for EDM. so gave him a partial template of Half dragon to get that extra strength enough so that with proper place ment of stats he can qualify by level 23 The half dragon does grant him a +LA and fairly early so something to consider. Starting stats Str 16 ((+3)) Dex 8 Con 14 Int 14 Wis 8 Cha 16 Final Stats. str 23 dex 8 con 16 int 14 wis 8 Cha 21 Race Half-drow Religion Loviatar Alignment Nuetral Evil Progression 1. Bard ( Adept Learner, any Background suggestion Fiendish Heritage all attacks cover Good Dr)) 2. Favored Soul 3. " (Blind Fight) 4. " (+1 Cha) 5. " 6. Half-dragon Template (power attack) 7. " ((+1 and 2 Epic Str)) 8. " ((+1 and 2 Epic Con))(+1 Cha) 9." ((+3 and 4 Epic str)) (Cleave) 10. Blackguard 11. " ((Huge Saves Jump)) 12. " (Divine Might) (+1 Cha ((gets Aura of Despair and turn undead)) 13. Favored Soul ((Cold Resistancce 10)) 14. " 15. Blackguard (Divine Shield) 16. Favored soul (+1 Cha) 17. " 18. " (Extend spell) 19. " ((Sonic Resistance)) 20. " (+1 cha ((20 Str/21cha here)) 21. " (Great str +5) ((21str/21cha)) 22. " 23. " (EDM) 24. " (+1 Str)((Acid Resistance 10)) 25. " (Persistant spell) 26. " 27. " (Epic Gate Optional Suggested) 28. " (+1 Str) 29. " (Practice Spellcaster optional Suggested) ((DR 10/Alchemical Silver)) Skills +5 hide mandatory +30 Tumble, +30 spellcraft + 21 UMD Rest in your choice suggest spot) WIth +5 items in stats ((use +4 for the even ones... exceptions will be if you get a hold of full set of Brazen which synergizes nicely and primary reason for picking a Cold Dragon + Cold Resistance Early it'll counter the one down side of that armor, But Generally you'll look like this after Item Bonusses Str 28 +9 Dex 12 +1 Con 20 +5 ((22 +6 in brazen)) Int +14 ((only reason this is high is for the skill points no reason to waste an enchant slot on this)) Wis 12 +1 Cha 26 +8 AC 41 in full plate and +5 gear 48 with +5 heavy shield and a 56 with divine shield active boostable in the short term to 60 with prayer and recitation. near 40 unbuffed well over 56 buffed can actually reach 62 ((with all AB boosting spells active ((caps that AB bonus)) Generally though even when hit your not gonna take much Damage being, either Immune through spells or having high resistances to the elements and DR/ Alchemical Silver Dr/- if you don't mind walking like a turtle in Stone body. Priority in spell selections gonna be self/party buffs and Heals.. ((haha I know Loviate with Heal and Greater Resto well there are RP reasons for a loviates to have these spells, Occasional Mercy is in there dogma expecially if such mercy will extend the spread of pain MORE FIGHTING YAH)) Baisically you are apex Loviate. a walking Terror who shows no Consern for self safety go ahead just stomp on those traps and open those trapped chest who cares if it hurts a little. and can rather dish out the pain even with a whip Talking like +30 some damage after buffing not to mention the damage the Ivory Bone scourge can do ((though thats really expensive like 300k from that vendor in the Lady's)) Hope this was what you were looking for trust me its a lot better than it just looks on paper. |
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| TheShadowWithen | Aug 5 2016, 12:40 AM Post #58 |
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Greybeard
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um problem with my build, Level one Bard cannot start with less than 11 CHA so uhm where should i take points from? |
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| Cordove | Aug 5 2016, 03:03 AM Post #59 |
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Thank you guys so much for the advice! Quick question: If I went with Berk's original build and dumped all my stat increases into strength, that'd leave Charisma at 15. Wouldn't this limit me to 5th-level Favored Soul spells? Some of the spell suggestions made are higher than that. Do +Charisma items allow me to cast higher than 5th? |
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| Ceremorph | Aug 5 2016, 03:20 AM Post #60 |
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Dark Mistress of the Toolset
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Remember that you'll probably be wearing a +5 charisma cloak amulet by the time you need it. |
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