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Berks Basher Base; Ask for your munchkins here!
Topic Started: Aug 2 2016, 10:48 AM (4,533 Views)
Born2BeWild
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Cordove,Aug 5 2016
03:03 AM
Thank you guys so much for the advice! Quick question: If I went with Berk's original build and dumped all my stat increases into strength, that'd leave Charisma at 15. Wouldn't this limit me to 5th-level Favored Soul spells? Some of the spell suggestions made are higher than that. Do +Charisma items allow me to cast higher than 5th?

nope, it's not nwn1, here you can cast lvl 9 spells with only 14 base cha and +5 cha cloak(or tattoo)
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TheShadowWithen,Aug 5 2016
12:40 AM
um problem with my build, Level one Bard cannot start with less than 11 CHA so uhm where should i take points from?

just take fight as your first lvl, 8 skill loss is no big deal
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Yeah sorry about that, here's me trying to make munchkins without explaining a few things. :rock:

As Cere explained.

If you're a caster, and not going for a DC build on the server, you can get away with having a measly 14 in your caster stat. Now, your spell list will obviously be very limited because of this, but if you're buffing anyway, shouldn't be an issue. I only choose 15 because then you end up with a +5 modifier with a +5 item. That allows for a couple more casts I think.

And yes, if it says "Take bard, or cleric" or something like that level 1, obsidifail forces you to spend points into the relevant stats for casting. Because they are dumb dumbs. As such, I would recommend just taking another base class (as relevant before hand) then nab the cheese class afterwards.

In the case presented, as B2bW put it. Grab fighter, then bard :)

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Hezrou with EDM, stormlord abilities, and base class... erm... fighter?


Is this a request I see? Or just random thoughts thrown into the mix :P

Thanks for all the interest so far guys, it's nice to discuss these things with the community and also educate a few people (like me) when you're introduced to new classes/races and you misinterpret feats :)
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falathara,Aug 4 2016
12:08 PM
Hezrou with EDM, stormlord abilities, and base class... erm... fighter?

Seems to be a request, though ummm not exactly possible not with a base class of Fighter anyways stormlord hezrue with EDM pretty much limeted to Cleric here. Though guess could build one as hezrue with out the RpRC but then why pick Hezrue.
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Sorcerer Blaster Version

Tanari, Into Incubus, I'd like Craft Wonderous Arms and Armor
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Hezrou with fighter could be done... I think, I'll try see if I can figure it out. After all, you only need 12 Fighter, 5 Cleric and X amount of Stormlord. Should be doable, though I don't know how effective. Interesting to have a look.

And then a max DC Sorcerer, no worries. Will post these up in a moment.
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EM Berk,Aug 6 2016
02:48 AM
Hezrou with fighter could be done... I think, I'll try see if I can figure it out. After all, you only need 12 Fighter, 5 Cleric and X amount of Stormlord. Should be doable, though I don't know how effective. Interesting to have a look.

It's doable. It's just like, way weaker than the alternative.

The Hezrou's ridiculous racial PRC is one of the strongest non-caster builds possible on Sigil. Hezrou, by itself, isn't that great. So it's just strange to imagine skipping out on the PRC.
Heya! I play Tammy, Daisy and sometimes other halflings.
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Yeah, just mocked it up and it gets all the good stuff... All the weapon focuses/specs for spears, full 10 Stormlord (though you could probably just go for 8, took it for posterity's sake, but then you'd need to take more cleric so Stormlord seemed the better option), epic resilience, imp power attack, 19 caster so circle 9, extend and persist, 30 STR with a +5 item.

It's not bad, certainly, in fact I reckon it'd do a stand up job. Especially when it crit stuff. It's basically a cleric build for the early game it'd be easy levelling. Then just take your last 11 (1st level fighter, of course) as Fighter for epic feats and bobs your uncle. I'll post it if you like :) But hearing the others opinions on the Hezrou RPrC (which is bonkers, I'll admit), you might want to go for that.

I'll be posting up the Incubi Sorcerer in a moment.
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I put on my robe and wizard hat... Demonic Splodesterer

Race: Tanar'ri
Alignment: Any Non-Lawful, Non-Good
Deity: Any
Background: Whatever, recommended Troublemaker for Reflex saves

Starting Base Attributes:

STR - 9
DEX - 15
CON - 9
WIS - 9
INT - 16
CHA - 22

End Base Attributes:

STR - 9
DEX - 17
CON - 9
WIS - 9
INT - 16
CHA - 35

Levels:

1 - Sorcerer (Spellcasting Prodigy)
2 - Incubus
3 - " (Empower Spell)
4 - " (+1 CHA)
5 - "
6 - " (Skill Focus Concentration)
7 - "
8 - " (+1 CHA)
9 - " (Skill Focus Spellcraft)
10 - "
11 - "
12 - Arcane Scholar (+1 CHA, Practiced Spellcaster Sorcerer)
13 - "
14 - "
15 - " (Spell Penetration)
16 - " (+1 CHA)
17 - "
18 - " (Greater Spell Penetration)
19 - "
20 - " (+1 CHA)
21 - " (Epic Spell Penetration)
22 - Sorcerer
23 - " (Craft Magic Arms and Armour)
24 - " (+1 CHA)
25 - " (Great Charisma +1)
26 - "
27 - " (Great Charisma +2)

Skills:

Tumble 10 (max every level)
UMD 13 (max every level)
Spellcraft 4 (max level 1)

You'll obviously want to max Craft Armour and Weapons, unfortunately, you have to cross-class it in this build, but if you're careful about it, you should end up with a base of 15. Plus all your inevitable gear and buffs, you should be fine.

What can I say, really, it's a max DC Sorcerer build. With more Charisma than is strictly necessary and Arcane Scholar to get those sweet sweet empower/maximise abilities. Epic Spell Pen chucked in for its necessity, ends up getting Craft Arms/Armour, and spellcasting prodigy for even better DCs. You could splash out on fancy things like Hellball instead of the Great Charismas, but they would reduce your DCs for very little bonus. Which is sad, since Hellball is great... Looks wise anyway.

Wonderful stuff.

Not much to comment really, take all the high damage irresistible spells first, then spells that do either uncapped damage (unless it's been changed, Ice Storm), then take Sonic/Electric damage. Might need a tanky companion so either get yourself a staff of Summon Creature 5/6/7, or party up. Bigby 6 is your friend, as is Ray of Enfeeblement. Would recommend Assay Resistance for bosses.
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About Hezrou build, 2 fight 5 cler 10 sl 10 ravager is cool thing, 12 nat armor and epic heavy armor optimisation on top of tower shield and cler buffs can lead into 64 ac(up to 79 with ds and ICE), and about 600 hp.

Look another stormlord cleric with edm! what a day to be alive
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Born2BeWild,Aug 6 2016
04:06 AM
Look another stormlord cleric with edm! what a day to be alive

Ehehe.
Heya! I play Tammy, Daisy and sometimes other halflings.
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Hey, I just take the requests :P

If people wanted more RP centric builds with more reasonable stats, class distributions and other such stuffs, I could do that. But when you wanna munchkin you wanna munchkin, and it doesn't help that Stormlord is one of the better PrCs in the base game. Or rather... Cleric is OP OP
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This class is sponsored by Mr. Opie OP's Pizza Restaurant. For a limited time, you can get a large pepperoni pizza for only $4.20. To be eligible to this offer, type the code "OpieOP" in the forum. That is O p i e O P. :nod:

I'm cool with more stormlords. It's not like I can handle Canceri without them :S
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Me alts got wiped so I'm making a new string of nut jobs. Enjoy!

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Now that Soulknives were fixed I'm really curious about how to build one, I would like to to be primary a soulknife No cleric cheese please, With PTWF, Race Any ECL 0 race, and Im seriously thinking I would like to see something akin to a Pure Class build, Because having a +8 Mind Blade with all the Epic stuff on it just sounds really fun, If that's just bad then i would like at least Mind Blade +7 (22) with the added Whatever classes added
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EM Berk,Aug 6 2016
08:48 AM
Hezrou with fighter could be done... I think, I'll try see if I can figure it out. After all, you only need 12 Fighter, 5 Cleric and X amount of Stormlord. Should be doable, though I don't know how effective. Interesting to have a look.

And then a max DC Sorcerer, no worries. Will post these up in a moment.

it was a request, I've been trying to mull it over for a bit now :D
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