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Sacred Fist; Cleric of spirit shaman
Topic Started: Aug 23 2016, 07:37 AM (203 Views)
WestonQ
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Subject says it all. Going for monk/evnoy/sacred fist build. But do I choose spirit shaman or cleric? And 6 or twelve levels of monk? Half ogre if it helps.
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WestonQ
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Or paladin. Hadn't thought of that.
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Mick64
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If you're just looking for what will be more powerful, cleric is pretty much always the answer.

Monk builds typicaly go 1 or 11 levels.
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Born2BeWild
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you can go for 20 monk 8 sf 1 cler combo, 6d8 base dmg that way
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Neethanial
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If you shoot for 11 monk with cleric, divine power will net you Greater Flurry with full bab.
Alternatively, going pally will up your saves, and give you smiting, but if you're not going to dedicate to pally for great smite, then it's not particularly worth it.
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...or some of you boss-builders could try to fit in the requested classes...

monk/evnoy/sacred fist with whatever else and levels that fit best. I don't think he's looking for a meta-build; he's asking for a specific fit. Then, after making this combo to your best knowledge, you could compare your other suggested builds to show the gains/losses.

This way, he can decide if it's simply too challenging (or not) to pursue the concept.
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Mick64
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Cleric 6/Sacred Fist 10/Monk 6/ Envoy 5 is probably the best I can see with what was asked. The last 2 levels can be either cleric or monk, doesn't really matter much. Cleric will make your spells last longer / few more casts. Monk gives you 1 more damage on your unarmed attacks. So probably cleric.
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Gazoo,Aug 23 2016
07:46 PM
...or some of you boss-builders could try to fit in the requested classes...

monk/evnoy/sacred fist with whatever else and levels that fit best. I don't think he's looking for a meta-build; he's asking for a specific fit. Then, after making this combo to your best knowledge, you could compare your other suggested builds to show the gains/losses.

This way, he can decide if it's simply too challenging (or not) to pursue the concept.

Or you could read the original post before getting all high-and-mighty. We're showing him different combinations of the requested classes (See: Do I choose spirit shaman or cleric? Or paladin? I hadn't thought of that.)
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Born2BeWild
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In total: Before NA nerf shaman/sf/monk/envoy was damn strong combo. Now cleric/sf/monk/envoy is much better

1 monk if you wanna caster lvl
6 monk if you wanna free kd
11 monk if you wanna 10 attacks per round
16 monk/8sf/1cler/5envoy if you wanna adamantine fists(sadly only for 0 ecl race)
18 monk/10 sf or 20 monk/8 sf if you wanna max base dmg(no room for envoy this way)

18 monk 10 sf 1 cler as half ogre:
total ab: 29 base+8 buffs+7 gloves(i suggest +7 ab gloves with blinding speed feat for this build)+1 haste+11 str+1 prowess+1 weapon focus=58 ab and 10 attacks per round
dmg: 6d8 base!!!+11 str+2d4 gloves(electro)+5d6(spell on hit from gloves)+3 buff+14 sf+2(from monk ring)=54 phys dmg(+22 electro) average dmg per hit
ac: 10 base-1 size+1 race+8 chain shirt+20 items+4 shield wand+4 wis+3 monk+3 sf+3 recitation+1 luck of heroes+1 armor skin+1 haste+3 tumble=61 ac(65 with short term sf buff)
Green Bean
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Whitefly
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Cleric.

It used to be you could build a wererat with spirit shaman and sacred fist levels for a really strong character, but since nature's avatar was deleted from the game, it's significantly worse than it was.
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