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Lich; How do?
Topic Started: Sep 24 2016, 05:05 AM (292 Views)
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So...both in game and on the wiki, Lich Template says:
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Spellcasting: The ability to cast 6th-level arcane or divine spells, or 6d6 edritch blast for warlocks.


Which implies caster level 11...um, that's a lot to invest in a PrC. 1) If this a bug? 2) If not a bug, does it require (for example) wizard 11 or bard 16 or whatnot? Or can one, for instance, take Wizard 6 -> Pale Master 7 -> Lich (etc.)?
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Lich is meant to be a hard template to get. You don't get bitten and turn into a lich, you cast powerful magicks with creepy rituals you'd probably not know about at level 5.
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Yeah but Lich is also weaker than like the Vampire Spellcasting class which is kinda sad by the looks of things
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Whitefly,Sep 24 2016
04:39 AM
Lich is meant to be a hard template to get. You don't get bitten and turn into a lich, you cast powerful magicks with creepy rituals you'd probably not know about at level 5.

I understand that, but the question still is...am I forced to be wizard level 11? Or can I be Wizard 6, Pale Master 7, then Lich?

TheShadowWithen,Sep 24 2016
06:58 AM
Yeah but Lich is also weaker than like the Vampire Spellcasting class which is kinda sad by the looks of things

Well...if we compare the two:
Lich gets +2 Int, +2 Wis, +2 Cha, 9/10 Spellcaster, +5 Natural Armor, Paralyzing Touch, 100% Immunity to both Cold & Electricity, DR/bludgeoning 15/+3, +4 Turn Resistance, Fear Aura, Special Synergy with Cleric (Undeath Domain) and Pale Master.

Vampire Via Maleficus gets +6 Natural Armor, Vampire Slam, 8/10 Spellcaster, +4 Cha, +2 Dex, +2 Str, Drain Blood, 2 Alternate Forms (gaseous cloud & bat), 10 Resistance to Cold & Electricity, Fast Healing +3, DR/alchemical silver 10, Dominating Gaze, & 1 Bonus Feat.

Both get Undead properties: immunity to ability damage, poisons, diseases, paralysis, critical hits and sneak attacks.



I'd say they're about equal, all things considered.
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Pretty sure you have to play straight wizard all the way through. All the PRCs are that way. It's just that vampires have such little requirements.

I've seen people level up to the point they thought they'd qualify for a class and then go delete their character because they got there through PRCs.

What I'd be curious about is whether a warlock has to go pure warlock. It may be different coding than the original spell coding which is a NWN 2 hold out. But NWN 2 didn't come with any warlock PRCs tied to blast dice, just certain invocations. Soooo, I'm suspicious, thinking maybe the coding could be different and you could go warlock 5, fell blade 6 or such.
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Pellease,Sep 24 2016
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What I'd be curious about is whether a warlock has to go pure warlock. It may be different coding than the original spell coding which is a NWN 2 hold out. But NWN 2 didn't come with any warlock PRCs tied to blast dice, just certain invocations. Soooo, I'm suspicious, thinking maybe the coding could be different and you could go warlock 5, fell blade 6 or such.

Fellblade does increase Blast dice, at 8/10 Invoker level.

Also, I found an archived thread on this, courtesy of a buddy:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/nwn2planescape/ar/t12921.htm
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The prerequisites should take prestige classes into effect. The way it's set up is actually with three different classes that will show up on the list: arcane, divine, and warlock versions.
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Wah? This changes everything!

Pretty positive Ceremorph said it doesn't work that way though on a post of mine some time back
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Pellease,Sep 24 2016
03:12 PM
Wah? This changes everything!

Pretty positive Ceremorph said it doesn't work that way though on a post of mine some time back

That's an issue with vanilla content. Not custom. Arcane Scholar in particular.

Unless things have changed since I was testing Lich, you can meet the pre-reqs with PRCs just fine.
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So long as you can cast level 6 arcane spells, you just need one Wizard level.
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Looking at the class prereqs file:

You need to cast 6 levels of arcane, BUT you only need to have a single level of wizard, sorcerer, or bard.
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