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| Topic Started: Oct 22 2016, 12:22 AM (688 Views) | |
| Strawberry Jam | Oct 24 2016, 04:56 AM Post #16 |
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Pure casting power, spells translated to points the wizard can get if I remember about 520 points and sorcerer gets about 750. So actual volume of casting is greater for arcane classes, which means theurging them both means you do get more firepower than cerebremancer and mutual benefits of using the same caster feats. Powers like impale are custom made which means they're generally better than all the official conversions. It's save vs death on reflex, does 10d6 damage regardless of whether it's resisted. So impale might work great, but maybe it gets nerfed, or maybe someone makes a custom spell that does it too. So you can't base an entire character around a single custom spell/power. Taking higher psion levels lowers your wizard DC and caster level, and also reduces number of bonus feats. And since you do need to split your feats between both separately you are more feat starved than either one of them. The main issue with Cerebremancer in terms of power is how it compares to full psion. There's little to no benefit in epic psion levels over cerebremancer currently except increasing your manifest level by +1 each level. So it's more efficient to take cerebremancer than pure psion but not necessarily the other way round. Here's a list of what pure psion misses: - psicrystal (focus on additional power) - epic metapsionics (stack multiple of same metapsionics on single power, reduce metapsionic cost by -1 for all) - feats at 1/5/15/20/23/26/29 - NWN2's bonus of +1 to DC for each 1/3 epic levels - psionic focus - 2 bonus powers each epic level If you keep in mind the limitations and the bonuses of other classes then you can make an okay character but you wont be a better DC wizard if you take cerebremancer obviously. It's a simple fact of numerical advantage. How we experience our characters playstyle and how powerful they feel is just psychology. |
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| Pellease | Oct 24 2016, 07:07 AM Post #17 |
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Wow, didn't know epic dodge gave 20 dodge. Kind of defeats the purpose of stacking all those psion abilities. . . Is this redundant or should i be thinking of it some other way? NM, just saw that sigil changed it. Out of curiosity what does improved mage armor do for you? Is that dodge or another modifier? |
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| Love_on_a_Wire | Oct 24 2016, 07:16 AM Post #18 |
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All iterations of Mage Armor are armor AC, like what you'd get from wearing enchanted armor. Epic Mage Armor is good for if you're trying to maximize your net AC, representing +2 AC over Improved Mage Armor. I'd recommend Lucadia's guide, I'd have suggested the same power choices that they did. One of the major benefits of being a Psion, even as a Cerebremancer, is sheer tankiness. It makes for a good first caster, when you get the initial hang of things, because of the room for error as a result. |
| Heya! I play Tammy, Daisy and sometimes other halflings. | |
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| Pellease | Oct 24 2016, 04:36 PM Post #19 |
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Thank you guys so much for all of this info! I might have to reroll as I didn't select some of this stuff. If you're down to hold my hand just a little bit longer and tell me how to put some of this to good use I'd be greatly appreciative! I really never have played a none gish caster. First off why the metacreativity focus? Which powers does that affect? Best ways to use: Control Sound? Dimensional Anchor? Ectoplasmic Shambler? Greater Precogniton? |
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| Lucadia | Oct 24 2016, 07:06 PM Post #20 |
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metacreavity for Mass ectoplasmic cocoon. its an area of effect web, except it sticks the mobs to the ground, leaves them helpless with a very long duration and 0 dex making it easy for your party. Or you could send out a summon to beat on them. Word of warning is its not party friendly if your allies are in the space before you cast. Its safe to run in after though. and Impale: Thats also a reflex vs death check with no spell resistance. Single target works great on a lot caster type mobs. Control sound? Its a silence but Im not sure how well it actually works. Not done a lot testing. Dimensional anchor is more for rp. It stops a target from dimension dooring if they are grounded. Its not stopped a gatecrasher from taking their portal though (iv tested that one). Shambler is fun to drop down on top of the mobs that are mass concooned. They will keep taking ticks of magic damage every round. Its also good for the towers in Neifheim. Greater precog has a lot options since its +4 to attack or damage, saves or skills. ((+4 to -all-skills). that stacks with greater heroism. |
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| Pellease | Oct 24 2016, 08:03 PM Post #21 |
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So greater precog is persistent. KK it looked like it would just give you the bonus once in the duration. I was like. . . waaaaah? It'd be interesting how sound control works. Does silence affect psion power? |
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| Love_on_a_Wire | Oct 25 2016, 01:22 AM Post #22 |
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Yeah, that's how it's meant to work in PnP, but the version for Sigil is stronger because of, I imagine, mechanical constraints. Or a bug.
Yes. For the sake of simplicity and balance, Psions have verbal and somatic components on their powers, and have to deal with arcane spell failure. |
| Heya! I play Tammy, Daisy and sometimes other halflings. | |
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| Strawberry Jam | Oct 25 2016, 01:40 AM Post #23 |
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No psions don't have verbal components. Some powers were given components for unknown reasons but most don't. You can cast control sound on yourself and continue manifesting while it will silence mages that get close to you. However if you silence yourself then you can't cast arcane spells without silent spell. It would be far more complicated if they did have components, then you would have a power that pointlessly turns you into a sitting duck, and no metapsionic or feats that allow still/silent casting. :lol: Ectoplasmic shambler is implemented as an area aoe like the cloud spells, anyone that enters is blinded (according to the d&d spell you are literally inside an ectoplasmic beast and can't see out of it) then you take a tick of magic damage every round. It's friendly fire so you have limited situational use. Many psion powers are mind-affecting which is why they're not used often, about as often as illusion spells are. That mostly leaves some egoism healing/draining powers, kineticism with elemental damage, and metacreativity. |
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I like Ravenloft & dual wield pistols & physician base class & Psionics & Aberrations & character customization & Book of Exalted Deeds Sorcery: Magi Kingdom of Magic Spirit Shaman: Mushishi Psionics: Fullmetal Alchemist | |
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