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Stalwart Defender Question?
Topic Started: Nov 4 2016, 12:13 AM (178 Views)
Pellease
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Does Stalwart Defender's Bulwark defense stack with other's DR?
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Clangeddin
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Yes, because it's not Damage Reduction. It's damage sharing. It will not stack with other forms of Damage sharing for the purpose of incresing the damage shared effect, but it will stack with other forms of damage sharing for the purpose of reducing the damage absorbed by the defender. For example, guarding the lord won't exceed 70% on the target, but the defender takes less damage (less than the standard 50%) from sharing if he has the bulwark.

Isn't this stuff written in the feat's description anyway? (Well, not the final part, but the fact that it should stack with other forms of damage immunity).
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Pellease
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I think you're talking about another class. The Neverwinter 9.

I'm talking about the remake of the Dwarven Defender.

Ultimate Bulwark (level 10)

This is a permanent aura that will reduce ALL damage taken by the Stalwart Defender and allies within 40' by a percentage equal to 10% + 1% per CON modifier (of the stalwart defender). Multiple stalwart defenders do NOT stack multiple bulwarks.

Doesn't say if it stacks with the Stalwart's DR or any racial DR.

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Clangeddin
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I'm the one who remade the Stalwart Defender, I think I know what I'm talking about.
Ultimate Bulwark is, mechanically speaking, a damage sharing effect, just like Guarding The Lord.
It doesn't say if it stacks with DR because it's not DR, so of course it stacks with it, like every other form of damage sharing.
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Mick64
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I'm lazy so I feel like asking if you know instead of testing : Is it applied before or after DR?
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Pellease
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Sorry Clangeddin didn't mean any disrespect. I just had no idea it was damage sharing, there's nothing that says that on the wiki so when you started talking about Defend the Lord I thought you had jumped tracks.

Also didn't know you made them.

So is it just scripted as damage shared so that it stacks with DR? Or does someone actually take the damage?

And no it isn't written that it stacks with other DR.
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Clangeddin
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It's applied after DR.
And yes, Pellease it's scripted as a damage sharing to stack not only with DR, but also with damage immunity, since it applies to all kind of damage and not just physical.
No one actually takes the damage shared since it's set at 0% and redirected to the aura.
It isn't written it stacks with DR, because it's not DR, for the last time. Only DR feat should have this specification (and I think they don't have it either in their description) because, unless specified otherwise, different DR sources don't stack by default, but this is NOT a DR source.
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Dredi
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The only real issue is that it does NOT stack with other sources of damage sharing, so if you are using Guarding the lord AND Ultimate bulwark, then you only get the benefit of the former, not the latter
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Clangeddin
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That's not an issue, that's intended, or otherwise it would be over the top if combined with Rescue.
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Rescue isn't really the issue - Its spells like Guarding the lord and Sheild other, but I do get what you mean - It could provide extreame levels of damage reduction.

But yeah.. Rescue is..rubbish. I took it once for RP purposes, but then quickly un-took it.

Because Rescue is bad.
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