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| Help With Ability Cap Understanding | |
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| Topic Started: Dec 18 2016, 11:01 PM (202 Views) | |
| DaftyXIII | Dec 18 2016, 11:01 PM Post #1 |
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so.. i wanted to do a waretiger barbarian fighting in hybrid form with "Mighty Rage" so abilitys cap out at +12 now from reading this from the NWN2 wiki
now i assume that I could go with example of 28 STR when in hybrid form.. and have a +4 str item to boost it to 32 which give a total of +11 ... now saying that could I push past that with Might Rage from Barbarian? giving me 40 STR with a effctve +15( hoping my math aint failing)? anyhow just curios if its possible to acheave that with my idea? P.S. i hope im making sense as im a bit tired at the moment |
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| Mick64 | Dec 18 2016, 11:25 PM Post #2 |
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Hybrid form isn't what NWN2 wiki seems to call a "natural bonus", AKA something permanent, that can be used to qualify for feats, therefore it doesn't stack with other "non-natural" (I usually call them Enhancement Bonuses) bonuses, such as items or spells. Barbarian Rage is an exception to the rule in that it's a "non-natural" bonus that does stack with other "non-natural" bonuses. It's the only one like this in the game. On top of the above, you can never get "non-natural" bonuses totally higher then +12, even with rage. So if you have say, +10 from an item and +4 from Rage, you'll still only get +12 to STR. In the same way, the druid spell Owl's Insight caps out at +12 for this reason. On top of this, you can never, under any circumstance have a characteristic higher then 50. |
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| Whitefly | Dec 18 2016, 11:47 PM Post #3 |
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Yea, it works just fine. Barbarian Rage stacks with things like +5 strength rings or Bull's Strength spells, up to +12 (+6 modifier) via buffs, and up to a total 50 (+20 modifier). Actually, having over +7 strength from rage is kinda' pointless given the ubiquitous nature of strength enhancement equipment. |
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| DaftyXIII | Dec 19 2016, 12:25 AM Post #4 |
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so.. from my understanding from Mick64 the Ability benefits from hybrid form are "magical" like EB not a feat... so that would make sense if so I was wonerding that, but dont have any experience from the PrC so now I know. andWhitefly i was wondering if i could stack waretiger's hybrid form with rage ability and have full beinits.. but, if what Mick64 says is correct (which i assume is from two others i talked too aswell) I wont bother with the idea of Mighty Rage in waretiger hybrid form.. either way I dont think im gonna chance it, it was just a thought I had in my mind and wondered if It's possible to pull off. thank you all for answering my question it helps alot
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| Dredi | Dec 19 2016, 09:56 AM Post #5 |
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Generally speaking if it shows up on your character sheet as a green bonus to that attribute, it does not stack. If its greyed out, then it usually stacks. |
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| Whitefly | Dec 19 2016, 01:40 PM Post #6 |
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But Barbarian Rage is an exception to the green rule ![]() Anyway Drafty, you can rebuild your character with no loss of xp or additional grinding for the next month(ish?), so if something doesn't work as expected, at least for a while you can fix it easily. It's nice to get presents from Cere :3 http://z13.invisionfree.com/nwn2planescape...showtopic=15871 |
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it helps alot

7:17 PM Jul 11