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Re: The New Ooc Room Rule; An Address to the Server and Staff
Topic Started: Feb 27 2017, 05:19 PM (2,928 Views)
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I will miss new players logging in and going oh wow, you guys are not arguing and fighting in the ooc room but having a good time. Good to see a community thats not toxic.


and while I dont hang out in the ooc room excessively but some days I didnt have anything planned for my character, or hit a brick wall on creativty or just didnt feel like rping for that day and rather talk with those logged on until the urge hits.

Just saying, Im less inclined to stay logged in if I need go loiter in my player house. or pretend afk in the bazaar.
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rapsam2003,Feb 27 2017
07:45 PM
No, it won't. Where's your proof of that? Honestly, if people leave the server because they can't banter in the OOC Room, then why are they even on this server?! It's a RP server, not a social server.


It worked that way in any and all servers/games I played, so I have no reason to think it won't happen here. The point, as you mention, is whether these users are considered good to have here or not. I am personally inclined to think that the more the merrier, but such selection is up to the staff.

For me it does not seem worth the effort anyway.
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There is actually precedence for the player numbers attracting more players. I generally call it simply as "numbers attract numbers", it's why the most populated servers keep gaining more players rather than player numbers distributing evenly among servers. Now I wouldn't make a claim that something like this makes a major dent, but the basic premise is sound and real.
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You know, we could remove it but then what? We're right back to the mess that irritates so many people right now and that is the utter lack of concern for people coming to the server by those intent on clowning around (at times with vulgar language and activity) right in the OOC entrance. I'm not even talking around the back near the oarsman but right... at... the... entrance.

So... where do we draw the line? Do we continue to leave the issue with the players, ignoring what goes on, or do we do something about it? Where's the middle ground? I know I have zero intrest joining the mod and subjecting myself to behavior that is, imo, juvenile and unwelcoming. It's not always like that, of course but it is, more often than not. I'm not concerned about the odd ooc talk or chat or player help or rebuilds. I'm talking the ass-hattery that goes on right at the entrance.

Call me old and grumpy (get the hell off my lawn) if you have to but that's how I see it.

Oh... and I don't make the calls so this is only my opinion.
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Hey I'm all for all foul behavior going the way of dodo's myself! But I think there's no harm in trying to find an alternative that pleases both sides. The people who just want to goof around aren't terrible people either. :)

I genuinely think this issue is something that has got a little out of hand. All the opinions about this seem a little too focused on whatifs and preferences. I prefer the approach of alternatives. Offering people an alternative to the why people want it doesn't seem unfair, or trying to find a solution for what isn't wanted.
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Then let's talk alternatives and middle ground. If we can all come up with a plan that everyone can get behind (and understand building new areas is a hard sell) then maybe we can all walk away happy.
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Your field boys and girls who enjoy spending time in OOC room! As I noted in my original post, I'm fairly indifferent. I'm just trying to mediate since I heard discord had quite the argument going on.
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None of this has been aimed at you, O... just the general thread. Typing at work (now at home) so don't have to do so quickly.

So, for the rest of you folks, gimme some alternatives, give me some middle ground. I'll take what you come up with back to the team to discuss. Just be realistic in your suggestions. Massive coding and area building likely won't fly.
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Darkrob,Feb 27 2017
05:17 PM
None of this has been aimed at you, O... just the general thread. Typing at work (now at home) so don't have to do so quickly.

So, for the rest of you folks, gimme some alternatives, give me some middle ground. I'll take what you come up with back to the team to discuss. Just be realistic in your suggestions. Massive coding and area building likely won't fly.

Lots of people don't use the Forums, so How about ....Advertising it in the OOC room? along with Discord too. 100% Spell Failure, that is also a good deterrent, a single line of code can apply that effect, the whole too scared to log in cause of meta gamers? I don't think that's a Problem to be honest. I have a Freaking Huge Red Dragon that people have seen OOCLY, cause of crashes and what not, so the good players don't mind it and the bad ones that call out on it Are Deterred by the community right away. Every one that knows my Dragon's a Dragon is because they've found out Through Rp, not the OOC room, Not crashes either, and the surprise they find themselves into is quite cool actually. My Two cents.
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I'm fairly indifferent on it, myself. Passively against it, but only because I've yet to really believe it necessary... or at least not actually addressing the presented issues in an effectual manner.

That said, I just wanna say that "give us alternatives, but we're not coding or building anything for you guys" might not be the best presentation or attitude.
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Just chiming in, I agree 100% with the OP of the thread.

Also, as a new player I do not find it off putting to see people in the ooc room when I first joined the server. On the contrary if they were not there to help me out I don't know what I would have done.

This rule seems to try and protect maybe some friend of the DM's who is mad about some people seeing their character's true form? Then using some fake news blanket statement of server lag as the real reason?
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CheeseWedge,Feb 27 2017
05:30 PM
I'm fairly indifferent on it, myself. Passively against it, but only because I've yet to really believe it necessary... or at least not actually addressing the presented issues in an effectual manner.

That said, I just wanna say that "give us alternatives, but we're not coding or building anything for you guys" might not be the best presentation or attitude.

I can't code and I can't build but I'm willing to carry the message back to the team. It's pretty simple actually... if I can't do it, I can't sell it. I'm looking for easy to implement solutions. Telling me that I have a poor attitude for doing that isn't that good either.
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ewe,Feb 27 2017
05:33 PM
Just chiming in, I agree 100% with the OP of the thread.

Also, as a new player I do not find it off putting to see people in the ooc room when I first joined the server. On the contrary if they were not there to help me out I don't know what I would have done.

This rule seems to try and protect maybe some friend of the DM's who is mad about some people seeing their character's true form? Then using some fake news blanket statement of server lag as the real reason?

Arguing against the rule isn't going to make it go away. It was put in place because people thought it should be. Erasing that decision with 'I object' isn't the way to do it. Hence why I said 'let's find middle ground'. Something that will make those who want the status quo happy but also thosw wanting the restrictions.
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I'm not willing to find middle ground for an unjust rule that is based on false claims.
I rather object and put up with the rule than agree to it.

If anything now we just have to all sit in the hall of mirrors.
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Darkrob,Feb 27 2017
09:34 PM
I can't code and I can't build but I'm willing to carry the message back to the team. It's pretty simple actually... if I can't do it, I can't sell it. I'm looking for easy to implement solutions. Telling me that I have a poor attitude for doing that isn't that good either.


I was more trying to imply that the words present a poor attitude or tone. An easier solution is obviously preferable, but the way it was worded suggests taking tools for solutions out of the hands of the people wanting to create a solution. No offense was intended.
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