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| Topic Started: Jun 23 2017, 08:19 AM (1,249 Views) | |
| Ariella | Jun 25 2017, 09:46 AM Post #16 |
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Additional Epic spells is a small side project i have been doing between larger projects. Almost all of them are limited to suit different classes and flavors. You will not be able to use all of them, either due to rp restrictions or mechanical ones. There are some like Greater Ruin that are a general feat designed for anyone to use. Then there are others such as Mummy Dust that are designed for only a set style. By the time i am done everyone will have new options. However these options will all have different effects, benefits and bonuses. Will good have a 24 hour summon? I am not sure yet but it will have something unique. |
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| TheShadowWithen | Jun 25 2017, 01:01 PM Post #17 |
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Given that good has no classes with a good Summon they could use it IMHO |
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| Theodoreick | Jun 25 2017, 01:38 PM Post #18 |
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As a Allatum has noted there is a notable example of LG deity, Osiris, who is a coded patron on the server, and who employs mummies, skeletons and zombies as well as risen servants taken from his faithfuls. It still penalizes the not so small amount of characters who still have issues with undead, regardless of alignment, but so do many of the vanilla spells. Actually mummy dust was an epic spell in vanilla nwn 1 if I recall correctly. I just hope that in the future there will be also epic spells that accomodate as well characters less inclined to work with undead or to cause massive destruction. Given that we have already had some, as epic mage armor, there is no reason not to think there won't be more. I would personally look forward to epic dragon knight. |
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| TheShadowWithen | Jun 25 2017, 02:16 PM Post #19 |
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I love the Egyptian style gods personally but, If that's how you want to say its fine for good players to take the feats then can we please get an alignment based summon for them? as a If Good the summoned Mummy is not evil, Same for the mummy lord? How about removing the non-good restriction from Pale Master and instead of a Vampire you get a Mummy Based summon? |
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| Ariella | Jun 25 2017, 02:22 PM Post #20 |
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Golem Master Valorhammer. No stronger companion/summon for beating down evil foes! and it lasts forever if you take care of it. |
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Do not hesitate to send me a PM if you: - Require assistance with a staff or player conflict - Would like to join the testing team - Waiting on a staff ruling for longer then a week - Want to join or start an event for the Harmonium, Transcendent Order, or Free League Trissa, Sensate Factotum - True Wisdom and knowledge comes from experience. Beladra d'Phiarlan, Harmonium Namer - I will bleed for my Golden Harmony, Get in our way and so will you. | |
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| TheShadowWithen | Jun 25 2017, 02:30 PM Post #21 |
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Golemaster also requires you to be Rich and level 30 with 0 ecl to get anything really useful out of it and is open to anyone |
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| Mick64 | Jun 25 2017, 03:29 PM Post #22 |
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A druid with Epic Dinosaur Companion ain't too shabby either and they can be Neutral Good. |
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Scripter. Login: Electrohydra I play: Anything. Blue Slaad. Lots of things too. Countless, ever-changing alts. | |
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| Mymothersmeatloaf | Jun 25 2017, 07:56 PM Post #23 |
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Not to mention Golem Master takes a dump all over your Spellcaster Level >_> |
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| Tomekk | Jun 25 2017, 08:00 PM Post #24 |
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>Best companions in the game >Full spellcaster levels (which don t matter that much outside of DC casting) Pick one
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"From the realms below we ride, And in terror they run and hide, From the shadows of old we rise, Awakened, from the dark! Over the ancient ruins we fly, Where the old kings go to die, And the new kingdoms rising high, Awakened, from the dark, dark slumber!" | |
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| Mymothersmeatloaf | Jun 25 2017, 08:01 PM Post #25 |
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I choose both because I summon the undeadz |
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| Lucadia | Jun 25 2017, 08:13 PM Post #26 |
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Mummy dust is now best companion with full spellcasting . |
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| edmaster44 | Jun 25 2017, 08:14 PM Post #27 |
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Mummy Dust |
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Helena Al'Iblis - Merchant, Mother, Wife and Sensate. Stormbringer - Princess from Melechesh, Scholar of the Planes, Sign of One, One of us! | |
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| Emanon | Jun 26 2017, 08:57 AM Post #28 |
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Pretty much seems the only option ATM. "Hey guys, pay no attention to this guy, it's my cousin Carl. He's a mute who doesn't like baths." Some of the arguments (well, "arguments") were amusing... Yes, it is a "generic" feat. It's literally a Generic Feat. As far as the name argument goes, you'd literally be arguing that... non-evil characters are incapable of binding things for 24 hours? That's what you'd be arguing. Non-evil spellcasters lack the IQ to figure out how to summon something for 24 hours. I don't think they even make a smiley to symbolize the solidity of that statement. Making the argument that "Guy A should not kick ass as much as Guy B, simply because one guy put a word in his background despite they are exactly the same build... Well that sort of argument is the kind of argument that'd get you a loss of subscriptions in a pay-to-play game. No one would really consider that good game design or balance. Ariella, I respect your response. Although I seriously doubt that anyone is going to be able to come up with a feat not-evil only that comes anywhere near the utility of a 24 hour bodyguard with stats rivaling a warrior PC... |
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| Grendel | Jun 26 2017, 09:49 AM Post #29 |
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Quality stuff. New content and we get vitriolic responses along these lines. Mummy Dust is a feat pulled pretty much straight out of PnP; being that we're a Planescape RP server that goes off of the canon lore, we're beholden to keeping to such things; if we aren't keeping at least somewhat close to the original material then we lose the core feel of the setting and much is lost in translation. Thus; yes, it's alignment implications suggest you will be at least neutral or evil-leaning to make use of the summon which restricts who can ICly use the feat. Just the same as you're ICly restricted from selecting Celestial Heritage at chargen for statistical bonuses, or taking corpse crafter as a good character just because undead immunities make for better summons. Likewise, evil characters are restricted from taking Paladin levels or similar PRCs, which impacts their builds also. Going onto the point made about binding something for 24 hours of similar power; Karella's made the suggestion that they might at some point create something that levels the playing field, or they may not. Our content creators contribute their own time freely on projects that they are interested in; if you're unappreciative of that fact and want to demand that they then double down and spend twice the amount of time making other content that matches it for your individual needs, I'd instead suggest learning the toolset and pitching in. Finally; I've examined the Warrior in question. It might rival a warrior PC. At bare 20th level perhaps. Hardly a game-changing summon. It's biggest utility is being a constant companion for epic levelled casters that prefer playing the summoner lifestyle rather than blaster; at best you could combine it with a dedicated Henchman summon from a PRC and fuel both of them with a staggering amount of buff spells which might allow them to clear some of the higher end content; maybe even a little of Carceri. In summation; a little less unhelpful griping about new content on the server and thinly veiled insults to our content creators, as well as either more patience while they produce more content to perhaps introduce what you're after or taking on the burden yourself. |
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| Mick64 | Jun 26 2017, 05:31 PM Post #30 |
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I find it excessively ironic that you put the word argument in quotation marks then immediately proceed to form a strawman. But anyways... It's common practice in many games to offer different options and strengths to different "Categories". The categories are most usually (In the case of RPGs) classes and races, but can be other things a well, such as Colors in Magic:The Gathering or.... alignments, in Dungeons and Dragons. Hunters might be better at dishing out damage then Warriors in WoW (I don't play WoW, don't hurt me if this isn't true), Black is better then Green at killing creatures in M:tG, and on SCOD (Currently) necromancers/evil are the best at employing minions. This is a thing because it makes your choice of category meaningful, and also gives incentives to try out multiple categories to get different gameplay experiences. Role-Playing Games (As in, storytelling, with RP) have an additional layer that isn't really covered by game design however, which is flavor. Flavorful elements are important because they help present a character as a person, and not just as a stat block. |
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