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| Mankind and Oracles; Consciousness and Quantum Physics | |
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| Lexi | Mar 7 2008, 10:04 PM Post #1 |
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Mistia Vevay
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Something very interesting I came across in an article: Mankind has probably been using oracles of one sort or another for as long as we have been recognizably human. We’ve used bones, entrails, yarrow stalks, coins, water, stones, the stars, dreams, cards, tea-leaves, handwriting. The Delphic Oracle functioned for hundreds of years, with eminent kings consulting it regularly and even fighting wars based on its predictions. The Bible is full of references to prophets and prophetic dreams. Contemporary Chinese still make a point of ensuring that any action they are planning takes place on an auspicious day, and even here in the skeptical West, every newspaper carries astrological predictions. Unfortunately these, and other predictive tools, are currently considered either highly suspect, or solely for the simple-minded. The reason for this is primarily our reliance on reductive logic and scientific empiricism (and our tendency to think that we have all the answers). It’s ironic, then, that the explanation for how oracles work in some cases at least (for now) come through the latest scientific research – specifically through quantum physics. The Quantum World As you move down even more from our usual world of matter, past the level of the most powerful electron microscopes, down to the world of subatomic particles, you reach a world with laws that seem fundamentally different to our own: filled with quantum probabilities and organized chaos, it’s a world where matter may exist and not exist at the same time, where our perception of all these phenomena can bring them into existence, or change them. Below all this chaos, there is an underlying unity: an energy or ‘field’ that exists throughout the universe, a constant ‘particle exchange’ that is never completely static. Physicists call this zero-point energy (the nearest that subatomic matter ever gets to zero motion) and for a long while ignored it, subtracting its effects from their calculations. But then one physicist, Hal Puthoff, realized that this zero-point field (ZPF) could be a vast unharnessed energy source – and started what may well prove to be the breakthrough of the third millennium. The more Puthoff studied the ZPF, the more possibilities he saw in this vast underlying sea of energy. All matter in the universe could now be seen as interconnected by waves of energy. Matter itself is part of the same energy field – in other words there is no division between the material and the immaterial. Nor is there any longer a disconnect between the quantum and the macro worlds. Even gravity – the sticking-point of scientific theories for centuries – can be explained by taking the ZPF into account. The implications of this, and other new discoveries based on this energy, are mind-blowing; the wonder is that it is taking so long to filter through to general consciousness. Lynne Taggart’s book ‘The Field’ discusses the different aspects of the research and its tantalizing possibilities: the ability to ‘turn off’ gravity (the long-term applications of which are world-shattering); produce new WARP drives for space exploration; or even travel through wormholes to distant parts of the universe. We could extract energy from The Field as a solution for the looming energy crisis; produce new digital medicine-applications; even kill dangerous bugs with electromagnetic signals. More relevant to this article is the discovery that the ZPF implies information exchange, as well as energy exchange, and could therefore provide instantaneous communication. The phenomena we call the occult or paranormal, such as telepathy, telekinesis, the Tarot and other oracular devices, foresight, intuition, and dreams, would just be part of this exchange, as we are part of The Field. As mystics have said for millennia, there is no separation. Equally important, this also corroborates the metaphysical tenet – that we create our own reality. Consciousness and Quantum Physics In the second half of the 20th Century brain researchers made huge strides with discoveries about left and right brain functions. (The left brain enjoys objectivity, logic, cause and effect; dislikes repetition, change and paradox. The right brain is holistic, creative, and subjective; loves images, change, paradox, openness. It can appear mute (language is a left-brain function; the right brain uses images to communicate.) However, we still know little about why how consciousness arises; how intuition works; or why some parts of our consciousness are accessible only through dreams or creativity. Recent brain research discovered an area of the brain that, when stimulated, produces mystical responses and Time Magazine reported a few months ago on a gene that may predispose us to spirituality. As the connections become more apparent between quantum physics and information (i.e. the mind); physicists have taken up the challenge of consciousness. Physics and mysticism are beginning to talk the same language: no longer are we considered to be a separate part of existence, nor is mind seen as separate from body. Some physicists even say that the cosmos is not only affected by consciousness, but is consciousness. Input guys?? |
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| Slaytanic | Mar 8 2008, 03:10 AM Post #2 |
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I agree that on a quantum level these things MIGHT be possible. But why is it that only some people have access to this "energy"? It is not like only some of us experience gravity and others just don't while standing on the same patch of ground. The selectivity of the entire thing leaves me in doubt. And if one had to put forth the possibility that some people are 'just born' with the ability, I again have a problem as medically we all have the same capacity for knowledge, error, and other human qualities. Can the claims that something separates us from the 'psychics' of the world be proven? |
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| Lexi | Mar 8 2008, 05:10 AM Post #3 |
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I don't have all the answers and might never have nearly enough of them. But that's why we have forums like these where we get different input from different thinkers... Some people believe in certain things, others don't, without it having to be scientifically proven or not. Some scientists believe in certain theories and others don't. Both sides having ammunition to back their theories up... We should just find whatever information we can and never be too scared to freely discuss what we believe in! |
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| Vox | Mar 9 2008, 01:45 AM Post #4 |
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Could it be possible that the persons able to access the energy has the correct frequency about them, or the correct combination of matter, or alignment of atoms if you want to put it that way, that the energy could be tapped unconsciously, even the environment around us. If I try to simplify the understanding of quantum physics, I presume it would be correct to theoretically claim that when matter and anti-matter come in contact, it would create in the instance of the reaction we would have an temporal shift of mass zero point energy (presuming that ZPE = 0) which leaves it acceptable to a mass of quantum chaotic effects, and would react accordingly to the matter that would try to fill that space, quantum rifts, alteration of constants, to name but a few. Big bang, maybe without knowing, a still effecting source of ZPE fluctuations, and mutable by infinate (assuming) of reactions to atomic input. |
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| Lexi | Mar 9 2008, 10:16 AM Post #5 |
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I don't think frequency, combination of matter, alignment of atoms, etc, is the answer. But then again, they might all be, and I'm no wizz kid... I did do some more reading though: Right now many physicists agree that our only hope to solve the "energy crisis" is to be willing to consider "extreme possibilities", including the frenzy taking place around zero point energy. A recent article (July 25, 2004) in the Los Angeles Times by Tom Valone, PhD: He discussed how the vacuum used to be considered empty, but now it has been shown that the vacuum contains an enormous amount of energy. Even when you remove all sources of energy and cool a region to very close to absolute zero (the zero point), there is usable energy present in abundance. He said that this is why Helium stays liquid at fractions of a degree Kelvin. Dr. Valone described an experiment by Koltick that shows the effect of virtual particle "dressing" that shrouds an electron. The Quantum Vacuum text by Milonni, he says, estimates the ZPE energy density at 220 erg/cc in optical regions. These measurements were able to be made because of science’s ability to study matter at the nanoscopic level. He also reported that gravity and inertia are proven to be effects of ZPE, by none other than Dr. Hal Puthoff at the Institute for Advanced Studies at Austin. He also cited the work of Yasamoto, et. Al. (2004, Science, 304:1944) covering peptide molecular photodiodes just 1 nm across -- another example of a molecular tool for studying this zero point energy that shows up on the molecular level. Dr. Valone’s report makes one realize that experiments tapping ZPE are now starting to be researched and discussed by the respected scientific community’s peer-reviewed journals. I think much more research is needed to even begin to understand ZPE, and researchers will have to discuss their findings in much more cryptic detail before being willing to give concrete answers. At the moment even people like myself can take wild guesses, and use big words or possible theories that have been used before in a different way, just to sound knowledgeable. But it's kind of fun, because I'm learning a lot about a field I never truly understood before, simply because it wasn't fascinating or exciting enough. Not fair, and also very wrong of me! I might not be the "non-physicist" to find the answer to ZPE, but when reading through some articles in magazines like Popular Science, Archimedes, technologies on the web, etc, there are some extraordinary findings and theories that suddenly don't seem so dull. And some of them actually agree with certain "belief" systems, just adding the proven side of things... *lol* |
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