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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 2 2015, 11:34 PM (99 Views) | |
| Maxy | Jun 2 2015, 11:34 PM Post #1 |
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I know we had one back in the day and was talking with Keith of maybe having one again. Though I recall it being very loose back then and it felt like more of an extension of the main roster. Feel free to offer options on it and suggest changes if such a thing were to come to light Rules/Limits I could see such development roster slots in this era having if it were to happen: - 10-12 limit or so of any combined gender - (optional) 3 staff (ex of breakdown 1 ref, 1 authority person, head trainer or announcer. Must follow the talent rules below) - Can't be guys on a main WWE/TNA roster (1-2 slot exemption if they were just signed to NXT for real and you bid on them a week later) (maybe 1 exemption to have a more skilled worker there, IE how NXT has Rhino, then again the main roster peeps can always show up for a day). For example say I wanted to put Canadian Indy wrestler Chris Bishop on there, yeah cool he's not well known outside of Ontario and if he were on a main roster somewhere he'd need time in the system but would be good for a local crowd or get called up for assignment. D'Lo Brown/Zach Gowen. Everyone knows who they are but are not currently signed by anyone (dunno if D-Lo is an agent for TNA still or not but let's pretend for the sake of this he's unemployed) for real but they have some name value. I know Gowen is still active on the indies and outside of his time in WWE and small stint in TNA he hasn't really done much to stay on anyone's radar for long but if you wanted them on your roster you had to choose only one. Nothing wrong with having a vet on the roster who has been on the roster. Someone like say Santino no. He's been to the dance, can still wrestle (I know he retired from WWE cause of inuries, but let's pretend he still does, I know he trains at Battle Arts in Toronto), he'd be one of those who could only be on a main roster. If a talent with name value can be a trainer he'd have be either retired from wrestling for real, or in special cases someone who has put in a ton of time in FBL lore. Lets pretend for a moment XCW never left (and let's also pretend she didn't retire for real), Trish Stratus has been on that roster for a pretty long time, you name it she did it. She has a lot of name value behind her. Instead of 'ok she's done, let her go and hope nobody treats her bad' keep her in the family and train the next wave of talents. Again that be something we'd look at on a case by case basis but that's another example of what we could do with that spot. -Must be from home territory (IE I could only sign Canadian/American indy workers since indy talents wrestle in other countries all the time. (depending how well known they are or not 1-2 spots can be given to foreign talent. Keith must approve said signing) - They can 'get called up' to the main roster for a bit for say a small angle, one night job, cover for someone who is injured but can't work X consecutive shows, but they remain part of the dev. roster limit. If they get called up to the main roster full time they take up a main roster slot. -(debatable) if you have a wrestler (for example Alex Shelley) who is doing a storyline where he is coming off an injury. They can stay on the main roster or vacate that slot and take up a spot on the dev. roster so he can take time to recover and get some light match work in to get back in ring shape, but they have a time limit to be called back up or risk losing them. Keith may have to rule on time on a case by case basis and hear your plans for the guy. - if you got a dev. roster you have to do something with it (to avoid the whole hording talent argument). You could have them work dark matches before a show taping, or do their own bi-weekly show. - An option could be release development slots for members to use depending how active they are or other special circumstances (not trying to punish Keith or CJ here). If say the limit was 10, Joe and I are active enough we could make legit use for a dev roster, even if the shows we'd give them are small in length. CJ could get maybe half of that until he posts more show (but since he's mentioned his situation publicly I'd say give him a full one). With how Rebel branded himself I don't think storyline wise he'd have a use for one, unless it was written in as a side product his company's powers that be are running and if his brand gets more show dates that could be like the next generation of the company or his nxt. That's all I can think of for now. What do you guys think about this? |
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| CJStyles | Jun 3 2015, 05:58 AM Post #2 |
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I will say this, back in the original FBL we did have developmental and it was a mixture of unknowns and big name talent which felt more like a way to hoard talent. I wouldn't want that to occur again. I wouldn't mind a developmental system, but I don't know if it's an necessity. If we were to go through with this, I really want us to police this so that it won't be a hoarding scenario. |
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| Maxy | Jun 3 2015, 08:28 AM Post #3 |
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Agreed. Most of the time from what I can recall I didn't see it as an issue but there were some times it may have felt that way most likely. I may or may not have been guilty of hording people that way, there may have been a few instances where I had some on the road for too long (can't recall how everyone used theirs back then and I don't want to go pointing figures since again I can't recall much specifics back then). This time around if we had something like this in place and knew what to do with it before hand we can handle it effectively, and should an inquiry of hoarding concerns pop up I'm sure it's nothing we can't handle. |
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| CJStyles | Jun 3 2015, 10:27 PM Post #4 |
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Keith? joe? Reb? Thoughts? |
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| UK-Joe | Jun 4 2015, 02:15 AM Post #5 |
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I am happy either way. Would probably use it to buy out EPW and use it as an international developmental/feeder fed. |
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| R3B3LYOU5 | Jun 4 2015, 07:18 AM Post #6 |
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I am indifferent to it. I'd definitely be feeling like I was hoarding. Yeah yeah having no name guys that take up space over big name superstars sucks but that's life you gotta make cuts or keep people you have grand ideas/see big potential in. If we had one great, if we didn't meh. |
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| UK-Joe | Jun 4 2015, 07:37 AM Post #7 |
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Maybe a rule for any newbies that join the FBL, they could be allowed to sign talents under developmental contracts when they launch their promotion? |
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| CJStyles | Jun 5 2015, 10:19 PM Post #8 |
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That could be a thing. I'm indifferent to a developmental roster. It would be kind of cool. I'd give short result style for it. I'm going to try and lobby for the woman's roster to be bumped up to ten total. Lol. I'm really wanting to do an all female show and can't really do that with seven girls. I guess I could make home grown talent. |
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| CJStyles | Jun 10 2015, 10:06 PM Post #9 |
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The more I thought about it, the more I think it would be a really cool idea in some aspects. I can use a developmental fed for younger/unsigned to the Big Two on a show along with homegrowns to test out the gimmicks and what not before bringing them up to GCW. I hope Keith makes a ruling on this. I honestly think as long as they are in NXT they can legitimately be signed to your developmental system. |
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| Maxy | Jun 11 2015, 12:07 PM Post #10 |
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Hopefully he'll say something soon. Though even though he is in NXT I wouldn't call Rhino a development guy, but that's just me. I know what you mean though. Like you CJ I too want to see the ladies limit go up. |
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| CJStyles | Jun 12 2015, 01:43 PM Post #11 |
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I think I'll just make a "developmental system" for homegrowns regardless. Though it would be cool to have a developmental roster of actual talent to sprinkle in. |
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| Maxy | Jun 12 2015, 01:58 PM Post #12 |
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Same. I already got something like that brewing, but as you said it would be good to have actual names there as well. |
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