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| Madalines parents being told to shush up | |
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| Topic Started: Sep 28 2007, 09:25 PM (196 Views) | |
| Caolen | Sep 28 2007, 09:25 PM Post #1 |
Demented Spoon
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[size=1]What does everyone think of the latest with the parents of madelines case? the dna in the car was the twins so that got them out of the running but now all of a sudden the portugese police have said that the parents are no longer allowed to speak about the case, them being accused or even the search for there daughter and if they do break this and have contact or do interviews with the media they can face up to a year in prison for it. Now what are your thoughts on this situation? i find it strange that this is happening and i can understand why if they were prime suspects but they no longer are so therefore they should be free as parents of madeline to continue the search for her in there own way if the police are not prepared to make the effort[/size] |
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| Kae | Sep 28 2007, 11:01 PM Post #2 |
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Today the Portugeuse police are saying that they buried Maddie in Spain 3 months after she disappeared, but I think it's horrible as they have nothing to base this on, It's mad. |
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| Caolen | Sep 29 2007, 12:20 AM Post #3 |
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[size=1]Now this is becoming a really big joke because if they HAD done it they WOULD have buried her in a place the police would need to get PERMISSION to redig up. Ie they got keys for the locak church to use 24/7 and if they did do it they would have buried her there as you would need permission from the family of the graves there to dig the grounds up. They would not go somewhere in the medias eye to do it, it is stupid and they were doing campaign work at that time and concidering the media was following them. concidering the police have told them to cease speaking out in there case, about there search for there daughter, them being accused or what the police are doing does seem strange indeed, i wouldn't be surprised if someone stole her and had people working for them in the police and sold her on, it has happened before in many cases of kids being kidnapped and put on the black market.[/size] |
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| Kae | Sep 29 2007, 10:18 AM Post #4 |
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It's just ridiculous of the Protuguese police in my opinion. It's there way of redeeming themselves in the eyes of the public. |
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| Caolen | Sep 29 2007, 07:12 PM Post #5 |
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[size=1]Of course, but what they do not understand if there coming across as though they have something to hide. I cannot believe there accusing because they have no real facts, they accused them because of the DNA in the car but even there own police was saying "it is not conclusive" so those accusations should have never been voiced unless they had proper facts and proof. Are they back in the uk yet? i am sure under the uk law that they cannot be stopped to speak out surely the portugese have no juristiction in the uk?[/size] |
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| Kae | Sep 29 2007, 08:43 PM Post #6 |
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Nah the portuguese can do nothing to them in the uk, and no, they're not back in the uk yet, sadly..... |
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| Tallulah | Sep 29 2007, 10:32 PM Post #7 |
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This whole thing is just too weird for words. I don't know what to believe anymore, and I am fast losing hope for them ever finding a trace of poor Madeleine, to be quite honest. Kate and Gerry McCann were foolish to leave their children alone in the apartment, even if they were close by, and the guilt is something they will have to live with for the rest of their lives. The Portuguese police and media are doing them no favours throwing these unfounded claims at them like this. The whole thing is just... weird... :( |
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| Caolen | Sep 30 2007, 01:00 AM Post #8 |
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[size=1]Yeah tell me about it i mean they left the kids alone why do that, no parent would, hell mike wanted me to run down and give him his phone which was just at the front of our maisonette and i refused point blank as we have a cat and even if i locked the door anything could happen, i wasnt prepared to risk it, no parent would anything could happen. Madeline was not a baby in a pram she could have drunk something dangourous, caught a knife, got trapped, tripped and cracked her head open or anything, that is why your by your kids side just incase it is a parents responsibility. the things which i am finding weird are 1) Msdeline was the only one took (they left the twins why?) 2) They were left alone in the house (why wasnt the kids took from them, leaving a child alone under the age of 16 is illegal) 3) Why did they not seem more upset than they are and were. 4) Why was british police called in? (couldnt they handle it themselves) 5) Why was there blood up the wall? (have they found that out yet?) 6) Why are they being silenced about everything including there daughter (kinda unlikely but i am wondering if the police knew something about it and was covering it up) 7) Concidering one child was took why keep the twins there and not safe with family in the uk. 8) Why dine a short way away and not eat at home? or take the kids with them? 9) Why is all the money for the campaign going into a account and not to numerous charities for those who have lost children to kidnapping, abuse or murder. (seems like there making as fund for themselves and using it to travel around the world) 10) Why did they not rush to the cafe where apparently madeline was seen? 11) Why are they not speaking out (i would if my child had been stolen, id go to prison to keep people looking for her/him) there are other things as well which confuse the hell out of me. But i sadly do not think they will find her alive unless they are really lucky because time was against them from the word go and it has been far too long now that they would have got rid of her if they had not meant to kill her ever because the heat is still on about her wearabouts.[/size] |
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| Kae | Sep 30 2007, 07:56 AM Post #9 |
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The Chop
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Everyone says they have an idea about her wearabouts, but how could they when the sightings come from Morroco to Greece to Norway...etc??? :Q: |
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| Caolen | Sep 30 2007, 03:05 PM Post #10 |
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[size=1]Hm it sound's all like just speculation at the moment. But if she would be anywhere buried if her parent's did it, it would be the church grounds, i mean perfect place they were given a key to use the church 24/7 without a vicar or priest being present. I know that the police said the church was a pin point for a possible location where madeline could be but they never made a effort to search it or do anything to it which i find weird. You see i remember my mum saying digging is going on behind the church but that has nothing to do with the police... <_< How can they say have a idea where she is with all the sightings, i mean sure they said they beieve her parents took her over the border on a holiday and buried the body BUT they were in the medias eye the whole time campaigning so how can that also be possible? that makes no sense in itself. Plus the mccans said they could see the window from where they were sitting yet police say the windows were unlocked so therefore if she had been removed from the window surely someone would have seen? The relatives lied about the distance between the room where the children were and where they were dining, it was over 200ft they said 120ft so there was a distance between them. [/size] |
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| bleam | Oct 1 2007, 10:38 AM Post #11 |
King Of Meh^^.
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Eh? i Don't understand why they would suspect the parents in the first place. What motive would her parents have for killing her? to be honest, i think its an abduction gone wrong, and the culprate left the country but before doing so he removed all evidence of it, including madaline herself. What i dun like is the way just because the police can't find anything, they're going round suspecting every one... And i don't get how she wen't missing in the first place, if i have kids i'll be watching em nearly allt he time... so this kinda stuff dont happen... even so she could be perfectly fine, maybe she was abducted from the country aswell... god knows, all they can do is appeal on gloabal television to return their daughter... our police can't do nothing due to international relations..... as for msot of your questions... the reasons for my police to be called in is because there from here, (i think) so therefore the brittish embasy though it as our afare aswell so they called in our police to do their won searching... considering the abduction to place in a forgion country, neither the stare or the uk can really do anything... its down to the local police... all we can do it nag and nag untill they do somthing... and this alos leads me on to the fact why only madaline was taken... if the parents had commited the abduction and murder... why only one of the children... and another theory behind the case is that the parents could have called in on a 3rd party to comit the crime, maybe the family are in money difficultys, and they have sold their daughter? all these ideas sprung to my mind when hearing this on thw news... ------------------------------------------------------ If her parents are the culprate why opnly 1 kid? If the parents are the culprate whats the motive? If the parents are the culprate why calling in external police from 2 other countrys to help (if they commited the crime, why call in 2 of the best police forces in the world to investigate, do they wanna get caught?) If the parents are the culprate how come they are upset? i know caolens already said they dont look it, but people can have their hearts ripped out, and still put on a straight face, may madalines parents don't wan't to appear weak. Another thought If she was abducted what reasons are there behind it? How was it carried out... And with all these random clues poping up, i would beleive this is all and huge elaberate set up, blood on the wall, DNA in the car, all of that? To be totaly honest, i am on the parents side, even if your are a nut case, you don't just kill one of your own kids? and as for the DNA being in the car, if its her parents car... then obviously her DNA's gonna be in their, my DNA's in my bed, doesnt mean my parents killed me... in other words what im trying to say is that Nobody has any clue what happend or how, the police are totaly baffled and are turning up every stone because of it. it just makes no sence... |
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| Caolen | Oct 1 2007, 02:00 PM Post #12 |
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[size=1]Bleam have you even been following the case the british police dogs were called in to investigate the parents home over there, not to assist in the case that is HOW blood and the smell of a corpse was reported but nothing came from it. Secondly they got in through the open window they suspect and might have either been disturbed and interrupted so could not react getting the other two kids, or madeline could have been away from the twins at the window, no one knows... Also the parents are suspects because they "left" there child alone, the house was not "secured" ie windows left unlocked and they were "unattended for a long period of time" these are all things which can raise suspision as they have done. The way she went missing was because her parents were dining 200 ft away with family. This stuff happens all the time parents going down the shops leaving there child alone etc... a fair few children die this way. As for why would the parents do that to her and not the others many say the mother did it by accident by many forms maybe she smacked her daughter too hard and she banged her head or something worse and died would explain the blood stain on the wall which was being covered up. I doubt they would have sold her they would have got more money for the twins and whats more if they had they would not be continuing the search they would be sitting back and doing it on the low, not all the way around the world. As for why her parents could be suspects is the following, the kids were left alone, unattended, there is blood stained which someone has attempted to wipe clean. They were dining with family (but didnt take the kids) 200 ft away. The window was left unlocked and easy access to the room as the unlocked window was in the same room madeline was in. There are other factors involved and many thing that her mother did it by accident and the father is covering for her as they do not seem all that upset i was be distraught. As for one kid hence i said accident or they might have hired someone to hold her why the donation money racks in and then all of a sudden she might be found (highly unlikely). The motive can be many things and none at once a accident has no motive, possible money issues all the donation money is being sent into a bank account and being horded but not to charities of those who have lost children the same way or for ophaned children that is indeed weird. As for why calling in other police that is simple to blow off the scent, to appear not guilty, to be the concerned and worried parents thats obvious. By doing so the heat is pulled from them for a bit and they assumed no heat would actually come to them. As i have said they were smiling on tv and seeing the world as well as canvessing i am sorry but if your first born was took the mother would NOT be smiling or straight faced it is not possibly you will understand this when you have children of your own. your heart is being pulled out and showing emotion can plead for her safe return showing no emotion can cause concern. When you carry a child for 9 months you become bonded and if i ever lost kaitlyn it would kill me i would be so distraught and not just upset mine and mikes world would end once again you will not understand this really. Now why is any child took it is a simple answer really for money, the child itself, abuse, rape, sell black market, lack of having children themselves, body parts etc. This has been proven a lot of children are took for the black market, there murdered and people pay a lot of money for the body parts that is left behind, look this up if you do not believe me, abuse is simple some people are so unstable they take a child, rape or molest them and then when they have had enough they murder them and get rid of the body again this is proven, same with murders they have sick fantasies. Other motives can be because the person cannot have a child themselves see a easy opportunity and grab it trying to place off the child as being theres, some even go as far to faking pregnancy and stealing a newborn from hospital it has happened many times in this world because new borns change so much that when there 3 to 4 months old there not recognisable. The child could be took for herself and sold as a slave or something worse on the black market, they can be took for a ransom ammount or other things. These are all well known motives as to why and the other one i guess is some people are so unstable they take her without knowing the risks. bleam have you ever read the news? or cases there have been a few where a mother went mental or did it by accident and killed one child but not her remaining ones. it is really rare though and i cannot see why she would do it but not to the other two unless it was a accident... many mothers have killed there children, google it there are cases of the kids being drowned, beaten to dead, suffocated, set on fire and so many more it is disturbing. the dna was of the twins the fact it was in the BOOT made them concerned and do a examination and dna test because they could not understand why it was in the boot. They expected it inside the car but not the boot of it. the police are baffled hell i think the whole world is, this is a really strange case and i think that is why everyone is really bothered because they cannot understand anything, there is no direct links to it.[/size] |
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| [DancingWillow] | Oct 2 2007, 02:08 AM Post #13 |
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What shocked me the most, and made me wonder, was why just madeline and not the other kids in the room? Meaning, the abducter had to be closely watching madeline for an opening when her parents would just "happen" to leave the girl alone. It makes me think how long this was planned, and what is the considence that the person who has been watching her just happened to find out she was asleep in her parents room while they ate nearby? |
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| Caolen | Oct 2 2007, 08:56 AM Post #14 |
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[size=1]you hit the nail on the head i was wondering if this has all been planned because the person who took her if someone did as you said would have to have been watching that window, waiting and what are the chances a parent would leave there child in a house on there own, most parents lock the doors when there putting the rubbish out just incase of anything. Plus what are the chances that they would leave the house but leave a window off the latch so it could be opened from the outside and the chances of it being in the same room as madeline are indeed slim and unreal possibilities but somehow it was... i am wondering if this was all planned for money as i said before the donation money is funding them going around the world and doing campaigns... if the girls shows up then we know something has been going on because the chances of that are nothing... maybe they did a deal that money would be given to the abductor but even then those are slim odds because who would leave there child with a stranger which makes me think possibly a family member is involved and who would risk there childs life on money because in the past no donations were gathered so much... if they have they have risked a lot on there daughters life indeed.[/size] |
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| bleam | Oct 2 2007, 11:14 AM Post #15 |
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King Of Meh^^.
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i guess the idea of it being planned is what i thought aswell, maybe not by the parents themselve's i just don;t think they did it, because there's no motive, unless she was doing their head in or somthing. But if it was planned, no doubt if the parents had been behind the planning itself, it would have been a 3rd party that acctualy comited the abduction, maybe to check the area for any relatives or friends of the family to see if anyone else could be involved. The theory of the cuprate escaping the country with the child although unlikly could aslo be possible. But as both of you have said, its a pretty jammy coinsidence that the parents would just happen to leave the kid alone at the exact time the crime was commited, I t could have been a normal burglary, but when the theif enterd the house, they founds the kid and took her instead of soem artifacts. Another theory is this could be international terrorisum, is the abduction was commited by a terrorist group they could hold the child for randsom. But these are just different ideas the people could get, i myself don't really pay attention to this, i just try to cover all aspects. or maybe it was just 1 culprate, meaning he could only carry one child... like if some one burgles your house, if they are on their own with no vehicle... they cant take your tv, pc, game consols, because they jsut can't carry it. And i spose your right, i'm not a private investagtor, i only seen whats on tv, and i read what you said witch was my other source... tbh i was just throwing ideas into the mix... giving people different theorys. if ya wanna cook me alive for it then i'll just shut up^^ |
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